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Last post 17 Oct 2007, 6:19 PM by Luca. 5 replies.
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  • Bosnia

    4936

     14 Oct 2007, 3:41 PM
    Hey guys, this has been bugging me for a while now so maybe u can help. What exact part of history is dolores singing about in the song Bosnia?
  • Re: Bosnia

    4948 in reply to 4936

     15 Oct 2007, 2:41 PM

    deathdeity:
    Hey guys, this has been bugging me for a while now so maybe u can help. What exact part of history is dolores singing about in the song Bosnia?

    Check this out, deathdeity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnia_and_Herzegovina#The_1992-1995_Bosnian_War

    I guess you're too young to know what happened in Bosnia in the nineties.  I see you're from the US and it's quite discouraging to realize that your country's schools don't care about teaching what's been happening in the rest of the world in recent years...

  • Re: Bosnia

    4954 in reply to 4948

     15 Oct 2007, 5:57 PM
    Luca:

    deathdeity:
    Hey guys, this has been bugging me for a while now so maybe u can help. What exact part of history is dolores singing about in the song Bosnia?

    Check this out, deathdeity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnia_and_Herzegovina#The_1992-1995_Bosnian_War

    I guess you're too young to know what happened in Bosnia in the nineties.  I see you're from the US and it's quite discouraging to realize that your country's schools don't care about teaching what's been happening in the rest of the world in recent years...

     

    Hi Luca -

    I'm thinking that deathdiety may be the exception....as my nephew who is 19 learned about this in World History classes. My thoughts are that possibly this person never took WORLD History, perhaps just US History classes. I wouldn't take this as being the NORM.

    Thanks

    Kelly 

  • Re: Bosnia

    4960 in reply to 4954

     16 Oct 2007, 5:34 AM
    kellymurphy:
    Hi Luca -

    I'm thinking that deathdiety may be the exception....as my nephew who is 19 learned about this in World History classes. My thoughts are that possibly this person never took WORLD History, perhaps just US History classes. I wouldn't take this as being the NORM.

    Thanks

    Kelly

    Of course Kelly, generalization is hardly ever the right way to draw a sensible conclusion, so I absolutely didn't mean to generalize deathdiety's case (by the way, excuse me, deathdiety, if we go on mentioning you about this subject: it's just because your post started this conversation).  Nevertheless, what you say tends to confirm my perspective.  Let me explain why: I don't know how American schools work in detail and I don't want to talk about something I don't know in a direct way, but what you say makes me believe than an American student can choose whether he wants to learn the world history or not.  That's what I consider somewhat discouraging: in my personal and very humble opinion, the ideal school system should consider some matters as absolutely mandatory, and History should undoubtedly be one of them.  In a globalized world, contemporary history makes no sense if it is not seen within a global perspective.  Then, let me express some perplexities about a scholar system which admits learning only US history without the world history (by the way, US history is no longer than about 230 years, an almost insignificant portion compared to History).

    Some time ago, somebody posted here a thread (a questionable one, in my opinion) asking what people thought about America.  Well, Kelly, here's something that many people in Europe think: we sometimes have a feeling that many Americans tend to ignore the world outside their borders.  I don't know if this feeling is well-grounded or not, maybe it isn't well-grounded at all, but as a matter of fact it is quite widespread, at least in Europe where I live.

  • Re: Bosnia

    4966 in reply to 4960

     16 Oct 2007, 9:12 PM
    First of all, I don't see why you have to automatically jump to conclusions and start judging my country just because of a simple question. Yes, I have taken world history, however I'm not overly fond of it so things just seem to slide off. I'm naturally an arts/music type of person so forgive me but history is just not my thing. It's not that I don't care about what's happening in the rest of the world, it's just that no matter how hard I study, these things just don't make sense in my brain. I forget dates and names of wars and even the country that they happened in, but that doesn't mean I don't try. I asked this question because I actually care this time and I chose this topic for a research project and I actually have a song to go with it so that I might make more sense of what happened. I'm sorry if my question seemed ignorant, but isn't the whole purpose of asking something is to make one less ignorant? Here I am trying to ask a simple question and you people start attacking my country with this stupid stereotype that Americans don't care about the rest of the world. I know that I for one, am not like that and I don't appreciate you categorizing us like that. I find other cultures fascinating and I'm a firm believer in the fact that we all have something to learn from each other if we just take the time to find out. And that's exactly what I'm trying to do.
  • Re: Bosnia

    4979 in reply to 4966

     17 Oct 2007, 6:19 PM

    I really think you misled my posts.  I didn't say your question was ignorant: I wrote you were probably too young to know what happened in the nineties, and there's nothing wrong in being young.  I didn't jump to any conclusion: if you read again, I even wrote the opposite, I wrote that no sensible conclusion can be drawn from generalization.  I didn't judge your country, I was just considering one single aspect of your country and I even specified that I was talking about sensations, not proved theories.  I've never said "I'm sure that...", I rather used the expression "I have a feeling that...", so I expressed doubts, not theses.

    I'm sorry if you felt hurt by my considerations, I didn't mean to.  As I don't want to bother everybody any longer with this irrelevant discussion, I'm going to reply to your objections more thoroughly in a private message.

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